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For the record again, taking up where the Senator left off Thursday. He either is really unflinching when it comes to debate or psychologically unable to not have the last word or has way too much time on his hands, but I have to admit to being impressed how much of it he's willing to give to an insignificant leftish clown who will never vote for him.
(Not complete, and maybe not 100% coherent.)
@Yastreblyansky @NARAL Seems mostly about due process, not that he thought Hill was innocent.
— Rise for Rubio (@RiseForRubio) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio @NARAL Purpose of raising due process issue is to argue Hill should have been found innocent because he "saved babies".
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio @NARAL In this way Newman clearly regarded the killing as justifiable homicide.
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio @NARAL I don't say you support Newman but you backed @SenTedCruz in suggestion there is no violence in anti-abortion movt
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio @NARAL History in US of severe anti-abortion violence is well known. https://t.co/M3KmNlVimr pic.twitter.com/JCqXkMc9Zn
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio @NARAL "Tactically stupid"? In regard to what. He's in fundraising business and it's what his donors wanted to hear.
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@Yastreblyansky @NARAL In re to building support for life. Why then do u think he released strong statement against violence? Donors change?
— Rise for Rubio (@RiseForRubio) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio @NARAL In public, but apparently not in private lunch with murderer Scott Roeder https://t.co/7sNkBYL7Uy
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
Is he starting to back off at this point?
@RiseForRubio Yes, since our exchange I have been reading up and he has been carefully anti-violence in public since George Tiller killing
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio Well, in 2000s, but fair enough.
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio "Army of God" continues to espouse violence https://t.co/p0XJ9uIHdw and has some arcane links to Newman and Operation Rescue
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio Yeah, that's certainly a level where we can agree.
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio The big question to me is the David Daleiden videos in which Newman was directly involved. false accusations of... 1/2
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio ... "selling baby parts" https://t.co/HthqGdlr3r, and its CLEAR influence on mass killer Robert Dear
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
Or more shifting the discussion away from Troy Newman and onto Planned Parenthood?
@Yastreblyansky Is it false though? PP admits they transacted body parts for $60-$100 each. Debate is if that is a sale.
— Rise for Rubio (@RiseForRubio) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio My wife and I lost a baby in 1988, donated the tissue for scientific research. It helped us in grief... 1/2
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio ...to think we were helping others. PP also contributes to scientific progress, it's not a commercial activity. 2/2
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@Yastreblyansky PP says it is not a sale but a reimbursement yet PP has never released a single document supporting that view.
— Rise for Rubio (@RiseForRubio) December 5, 2015
@Yastreblyansky I don't think Chaffetz concluded that. I don't get why PP hasn't released any info to public... just says trust us.
— Rise for Rubio (@RiseForRubio) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio They've given all this documentation to House, and NY Times has seen enough 2 be satisfied, see Snopes https://t.co/H4m2E4Lifs
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@Yastreblyansky Why should I have to trust NY Times to decide what I think? Why can't PP just release documentation that there is no profit?
— Rise for Rubio (@RiseForRubio) December 5, 2015
@Yastreblyansky You don't find it odd that Daleiden puts his full videos out but PP just says "trust us" w/ no public info?
— Rise for Rubio (@RiseForRubio) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio I understand. Some data I'm happy to let others look at though. Where do you get sense something is being withheld?
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@Yastreblyansky If it was reimbursing costs, PP should be able to provide a document showing fetal parts $ not exceeding costs.
— Rise for Rubio (@RiseForRubio) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio Where did "Center for Medical Progress" get original documents it posted? https://t.co/XtOpIPwJGa Stolen or provided by PP?
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio Ah, stolen, with information violating confidence of third party StemExpress https://t.co/kzzAlUF8ib
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio And Daleiden didn't turn over his documentation until enjoined by court https://t.co/JJYGmvPjLb
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio So documents PP is not posting online contain proprietary information of 3rd-party companies. (Who are not in it for charity)
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio And companies that are in business and must make extremely complex shipping arrangements for delicate tissues.
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio Words I thought I'd never say: I trust Jason Chaffetz. https://t.co/6Fr8Md5ApK ;-) pic.twitter.com/8ObTNv9zif
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
That's the wrong picture; should have been this:
@RiseForRubio I do hope you'll train that mind on the Pentagon one day, Senator.
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@RiseForRubio Way beyond my pay grade. StemExpress thought it was fair. I have no clue of my own.
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
At this point he may have artfully conceded that Planned Parenthood never sold tissue, shoving off the allegations onto a private firm instead, but it's pretty slippery:
@Yastreblyansky StemExpress would resell parts sometimes for over 10k so how they justify that is beyond me.
— Rise for Rubio (@RiseForRubio) December 5, 2015
@Yastreblyansky StemExpress is a for-profit company yet buying/selling of fetal tissue at profit is illegal.
— Rise for Rubio (@RiseForRubio) December 5, 2015
@Yastreblyansky I think StemExpress actually is much more clearly illegal in action than PP but CA AG seems asleep.
— Rise for Rubio (@RiseForRubio) December 5, 2015
StemExpress can speak reasonably well for itself. I don't see how it's done anything illegal at all, of course, in procuring donations and processing them—again see the Snopes piece for explanations of the costs—and attorneys general are evidently satisfied that such is the case.And in conclusion (I do think he's backed off defending Newman and attacking Planned Parenthood for the moment at least) we display some of that civility you've heard tell about and Like each other, cute huh.
@RiseForRubio Before this ends I do want to thank you for respectful give and take.
— Yastreblyansky (@Yastreblyansky) December 5, 2015
@Yastreblyansky Same here. Even though we may have some different views, we can discuss w/respect & agree on some things i.e. no violence.
— Rise for Rubio (@RiseForRubio) December 5, 2015
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