|Image by vienman.com via Taiwan News and an excellent discussion of George H.W. Bush's failure to respond to the Tiananmen killings.|
On the eve of the 30th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre, I got embroiled in an idiotic Twitter war discussing the Chinese president with a transatlantic mob of conservatives who have recently found that they object to the treatment of Muslims in Xinjiang province being forcibly "re-educated" into Xi Jinping Thought and the decisions of the 19th National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party, after being completely indifferent to it for years, and my tweet went a little viral:
Xi's a horrible person but he knows how to behave himself in public. Never tells the host country who to pick as prime minister, for instance, or talks about whether the local princesses are nasty or not.— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 2, 2019
Trump's a garrulous old fool who can't control his tongue and keeps insulting people left and right. You should hear what Khan's predecessor as mayor said about inviting him to London--guy called Boris https://t.co/JdDwGRTdg1— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 2, 2019
An awful lot of people decided I was trying to say that Xi Jinping was a nicer person than Trump, and haughtily informed me that Xi is in fact a bad man.
Tell it to Trump. I've never invited that fucker to the US. pic.twitter.com/WT5oYaC1ZY— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 2, 2019
When have I ever justified it? Do I know you? You must be confusing me with Donald Trump. pic.twitter.com/SKhUlcZHzg— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 2, 2019
Ingraham's one of the worst anti-Muslim bigots on the air. https://t.co/PyhV7WfftG This sympathy for China's Uyghurs in reeducation camps is fake.— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 2, 2019
Again talk to Trump about it, not me, I've never invited Xi here.— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 2, 2019
The question is why does London Mayor Khan express concern about Trump visit (as Boris Johnson did before him) and not about Xi visit? Turns out for one thing he wasn't mayor when Xi visited (Boris was).
That was fun. During Xi's state visit to Britain in 2015, Boris Johnson was the mayor of London. Of course he didn't protest against the visit. Some folks tried to suggest that Khan ought to have protested against it anyway, as MP for Tooting, but it was getting silly.
I'm not saying Xi is nicer than Trump for fuck's sake; I'm saying Sadiq Khan's concern about Trump visit to London is justified.— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 2, 2019
Trump administration has done lots of locking up people who didn't commit crimes and lost thousands of parents of the children it kidnapped though.
He hid it in the presupposition of his sentence: "I didn't know she was nasty" meaning now he knows it. Listen to the tape, it's available.— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 2, 2019
I never said it's OK to be Xi Jinping. I'm sure I've spoken out more against concentration camps for Uyghurs and Kazakhs than you.
The thing about the Duchess of Suffolk (she'd made some remarks about Trump some time ago, when she was an American actress, and Trump, asked how he felt about this, responded with some typically deniable Trump slime), is a distraction.
Obama certainly did campaign against Brexit, which I think is justifiable as a matter of considerable importance to the United States; not the trivial issue of who the Tories should nominate to succeed May as the next failed prime minister (Trump endorsed Johnson, via tweet, before flying to Britain), but the overturning of an international economic order in which the US is intensely involved. Somebody said Obama "threatened" Britain against voting to Leave, but I think what Obama actually said, that Leaving would put Britain at the end of the queue in trade negotiations with the US, was simply true, and still is; we now have a Brexit-friendly administration in Washington, but they still can't start negotiating a trade deal with UK until the terms of the Brexit (if it takes place at all) become clear, while US trade negotiations with the EU are still at the (advanced) stage where they were at the end of 2016.
I didn't "infer" or imply (the word you wanted) anything. I stated that Mayor Khan's concern over the Trump visit was justified and I do think Johnson was justified in not objecting to Xi; Xi doesn't interfere with British domestic affairs, as Trump wantonly does.— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 2, 2019
I've also never objected to Trump inviting Xi to the US, though I was worrying about mistreatment of minorities in Xinjiang and Tibet when you conservatives were fainting over (mostly false) stories of Chinese Muslims running around stabbing people with needles.— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 2, 2019
Those stories, embraced by Islamophobes all over the world, were Xi's excuse for opening the "re-education camps" that you now pretend to be distressed about all of a sudden.— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 2, 2019
Actually Trump has actively opened prison camps for Central American refugees in which several children have died. Why don't you ask him why he's so fond of Xi? They have a lot in common pic.twitter.com/nxupzX5AJC— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 2, 2019
Only in showplace rooms designated for them to visit. But the torture is real. The government is trying to wipe out a civilization and force Uyghurs to "assimilate". Similar to what Trump has urged for Muslims in US, but our democracy prevents him https://t.co/Z7p0bqVKqS— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 2, 2019
You're confusing Xi, who doesn't habitually have people killed, with one of Trump's other friends like Kim Jong-un or Rodrigo Duterte or Crown Prince Muhammad bin Salman. I hate all these monsters but there are distinctions— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 3, 2019
I am not saying Xi is not a bad person. I'm merely saying he would not push the queen out of the way or carry on a twitter feud with the mayor of the nation's capital.— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 3, 2019
Churchill and Roosevelt collaborated with Stalin, who murdered far more than Xi could ever hope to; that's diplomacy, and it's how World War II was won. Trump is not diplomacy but WWE trash talk and talking to him will accomplish nothing.— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 3, 2019
Or when I called out Xi Jinping's personality cult (and Trump's support for it) last December? https://t.co/QRMatOZLdB— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 3, 2019
And so on and so on. But there's an actual point I got around to that may have been worth making:You don't need to tell me Xi Jinping is a bad person, you need to tell the president of the United States. pic.twitter.com/3KpWLgd7Pv— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 3, 2019
I'm proud Hillary Clinton criticized Xi when he was in New York in 2015. https://t.co/2wKH37MkpE and I'd like it very much if our mayor Bill de Blasio had done the same, but I don't think he did.— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 3, 2019
The difference between Trump and Xi is you can't accomplish a foreign policy goal with Trump, not because he's evil like Xi (I think he is, you don't) but because unlike Xi he's too dumb, too impulsive, and incapable of keeping his word.— See Pinned Tweet (@Yastreblyansky) June 3, 2019
There's really no point in having Trump over for a state visit, because it's not going to get anything done that's worth doing.