Illustration via Joan Wong from The Atlantic, December 2018. |
This thing I keep saying, but I like the form in which I said it this time:
You're not alone.
— Mark😷Mucci (@MLMucci) August 15, 2020
It really goes back to Bill Buckley and the dictum that conservatives should support the rightmost candidate who can get elected. Of course conservatives were most vitally interested in governments not doing anything (other than policing the underclass), so that made some sense.
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
When the Democratic party was at its historical best (at least in North and West) in 1932, it hitched itself to a relatively conservative plutocrat (ancient rich family, campaigned on proposal to balance budget) with that famous FDR "temperament". It was a good move!
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
And serious leftists (e.g. CPUSA) saw that and appreciated it. Nowadays or at least on this platform it's more like a round of American Idol where people are concerned first of all with symbolic representation. As if they'd given up hope for change, but not for fashion.
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
/fin
Book jacket, David Horowitz Freedom Center, April 2014, via Amazon. |
Also, material from an epic troll battle with one of those "smart" wingnuts, which began on the subject of the celebrated forthcoming Investigation-of-the-Investigation report of Robert Durham and its preliminary press release on the single guilty plea it's going to yield—which ended up in territory I haven't had much to say about and didn't really know much about, Michael Flynn's "Turkish project" and its relation to his legal exposure, so it might be useful to put together what I learned.
It starts out with a strange little quarrel on legalisms: Durham's attempt to treat the whole Crossfire Hurricane FBI investigation as a criminal investigation of possible violations of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, as a way to frame it as an attack on Trump's minions, instead of what it actually was, a counterintelligence investigation trying to work out how the Russian election interference worked and how it was connected (legally or otherwise) with the Trump campaign:
How can you not know these things? The EC opening Crossfire Hurricane has already been declassified: https://t.co/ia9GUv8TiL
— Andrew Slough (@andyjss) August 15, 2020
"From: COUNTERINTELLLIGENCE" pic.twitter.com/bn8QrPzU2F
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
"To determine whether individuals from Trump campaign are witting of and/or coordinating activities with Government of Russia" , not whether they are agents of it pic.twitter.com/VjBgsfU8XC
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
No. An agent is "controlled" "directed" or "supervised pic.twitter.com/kMh9DVLABV
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
"witting of" or "coordinating" would be in their capacity as agents of Trump campaign and if it was a crime (which I believe it was, but Mueller didn't find sufficient evidence) would be coordination/conspiracy to get foreign campaign help (Russian intelligence working for Trump)
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
Mueller did by the way establish that the Trump campaign was witting of Russian active measures. pic.twitter.com/mzAVjXondN
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
It clearly is. It is from the Counterintelligence division of the Bureau. Counterintelligence is what they do. It's their job. The FBI is a bureaucracy and that's how they work. If you don't get it I can't help you.
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
Clear since Horowitz report came out. Also irrelevant to "origins of the investigation" since it was in the third renewal application, June 2017, a year after the investigation was opened.
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
It's not OK. Clinesmith is clearly guilty of a crime, as we've known since December, and the charge is valid. Flynn is clearly guilty of a large number of very serious crimes, most of which he wasn't charged with under the terms of his guilty plea deal.
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
CI doesn't launch criminal investigations. Crossfire Hurricane was to investigate what it said it was going to investigate, which was Russian active measures in the election and Trump campaign awareness of them, a definite counterintelligence (and only perhaps criminal) problem.
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
But there were obvious and obviously justified counterintelligence reasons for investigating Papadopoulos, Manafort, Gates, Flynn, and Page on the basis of their weird INTERACTIONS with Russian intelligence community, regardless of whether they were agents. No need for "excuses".
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
The header is From: COUNTERINTELLIGENCE
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
Possible FARA charges are one of three items in the subject line, of which the first is Crossfire Hurricane, a counterintelligence investigation pic.twitter.com/ApgRx0IUID
CI doesn't launch criminal investigations. Crossfire Hurricane was to investigate what it said it was going to investigate, which was Russian active measures in the election and Trump campaign awareness of them, a definite counterintelligence (and only perhaps criminal) problem.
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
But there were obvious and obviously justified counterintelligence reasons for investigating Papadopoulos, Manafort, Gates, Flynn, and Page on the basis of their weird INTERACTIONS with Russian intelligence community, regardless of whether they were agents. No need for "excuses".
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
That's an oversimplification of what the interviewers thought. It's better described in McCabe's memoir "The Threat": pic.twitter.com/jHy0Ee1FDC
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
Thus Flynn's cheerful response when McCabe asked if he wanted a lawyer, "No, no, I don't need to do that, just send your guys down here", and "You know what I said, because you guys were probably listening." McCabe didn't get it, but he was confidently expecting a coverup.
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
Lindsey failing to give full quotations from the hearing https://t.co/MkVeGD9U3A is clearly cherry-picking to make his point and poison the well in advance of our getting the full text
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
Flynn's case was the same as Rafiekian (Flynn's business partner). Flynn pled, Rafiekian went to trial. Rafiekian was acquitted by the judge as a matter of law.
— Andrew Slough (@andyjss) August 15, 2020
The FARA charge. You said Flynn would have been found guilty of the FARA charge if he hadn't made the plea deal.
— Andrew Slough (@andyjss) August 15, 2020
Yes. Flynn took the plea deal.
— Andrew Slough (@andyjss) August 15, 2020
But he did not admit to the FARA violations with which Rafekian was charged (for which he agreed to testify against Rafekian) or numerous counts of influence peddling, only to lying pic.twitter.com/G2kWzPh46g
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
And prosecutors' case against Rafekian relied on testimony Flynn had promised to provide and then went back on his word, which is central reason why the verdict was overturned pic.twitter.com/58dh9jcLEv
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
No. No evidence was PRESENTED in that connection against Rafekian, because Flynn did not testify and his out-of-court statements were rejected as hearsay (the judge gets kind of angry on this, as a case against Flynn would have been far stronger) pic.twitter.com/7CJjmZHqGL
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
officials, then Flynn should have been charged as a co-conspirator.
— Andrew Slough (@andyjss) August 15, 2020
But Flynn had the same escape hatch Rafiekian used: The government had no evidence that the Turks who were paying the Flynn group were directed by or controlled by the Turkish government.
— Andrew Slough (@andyjss) August 15, 2020
He wasn't prepared to offer the testimony he had sworn to in the grand jury. He had drastically changed his story. pic.twitter.com/4AGI55FlLn
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
Correct, perhaps. It was recognized by some as a ridiculously generous deal at the time. https://t.co/VdopkY8FAP
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
So the government didn't call him because Flynn wouldn't say he knew at the time the FARA form was filed that it was false.
— Andrew Slough (@andyjss) August 15, 2020
No, he had entirely changed his story, which previously acknowledge he was an agent of Turkish government. pic.twitter.com/gxsTjwXIRa
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
He's a very accomplished liar, as Peter Strzok noted, but when I look at the circumstantiality of the particular lies on the Turkish project that he admitted to in the plea agreement, I just don't see how they were really the truth and he was lying in the plea. pic.twitter.com/zBhCrpwyrC
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
everyone starts getting squeezed for a false FARA filing. Flynn's not a lawyer: I don't think Flynn had any idea when he did the work what FARA was, or that it might matter to what extent the Turkish government were involved in a project. The DOJ never prosecuted FARA back then.
— Andrew Slough (@andyjss) August 15, 2020
Flynn and Giuliani as well https://t.co/PQcgqWFuqP really went over the line, working to bend US foreign policy against our national interests, with terrible results we saw in Syria last year.
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
Erdoğan secretly paying you to promote his views inside a presidential administration isn't some kind of cute debate club exercise where "people differ".
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
https://t.co/ljawT50oe5 pic.twitter.com/aUDvKi0ZwR
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
Cry me a river.
— Yas, Semite! (@Yastreblyansky) August 15, 2020
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